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Topic: Help with Presentation Needed
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AD
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posted 07-16-2008 07:38 AM
  
Hi all,I've been asked to teach a 45 min. in-service block on non-verbal communication, body language, and what to look for in the deceitful or guilty person. Of all my prior training classes, I can't seem to find what I'm looking for. Can anyone assist me with this? Any help would be appreciated...thanks in advance. Alan Moore
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Barry C
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posted 07-16-2008 08:50 AM
You have a couple ways of doing this. First, you can give a commercial for the Reid Method, which asks the question "Does this person behave in a way that is more consistent with a truthful person or a deceptive person?" The "downside" is that you're not really looking at indicators of deception for individual statements or claims of the person. Instead, you're looking at the whole picture and using info available to classify the person into one category or another. You can go the other route - the one we see in the "academic" literature. e.g., Vrij, on cues to deception that are more statement specific.I don't know if it's been published yet, but Frank Horvath, Pete Blair and Joe Buckley wrote a paper on the Reid interview that would be a nice outline for a topic such as this. Write one and ask for a copy. IP: Logged |
Buster
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posted 07-16-2008 09:26 AM
If you decide to go the Reid route, I have the teachers packet....3 VHS and a facilitator's booklet. But, obviously, it will have to be mailed. IP: Logged |
Taylor
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posted 07-16-2008 09:43 AM
If you type in 'reading body language' or 'how to tell if someone is lying' in google I believe you can find a few videos that could be used in your presentation. I found them when I was looking for information on a different presentation I did. It might even be on You Tube. Of course they are 'actors' (lol) but it gets to the point. I also just typed in lying eye movements and found this: http://www.viewzone.com/liar.html You could do a good 10-15 minutes on eyes. Also there is that snippet from the movie with Samuel Jackson(?) where he holds the cops hostage that were setting him up and then watches the guys eyes moving...what the heck is the name of that movie? I like little videos in my presentations. I also have two Simpson videos where Homer blows up the polygraph when they ask if he undestands and Moe keeps setting it off when he lies about shotting someone and looking at women in the sears catalog. They are good ice breakers. Shoot me an email if you want them. Taylor IP: Logged |
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posted 07-16-2008 12:07 PM
The samuel Jackson movie is called 'The Negotiator'.------------------
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Barry C
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posted 07-16-2008 12:24 PM
I'd be careful with the eye stuff. There has been good share of research on the topic, and there's not a single study (nada, zilch, zero, none, nothing) to show it works. It does show it doesn't work.Think about it though: if a person constructs an image (lies), then he'd look to one direction. If he recalls an image (from memory, obviously), then he'd look in the other direction (according to the eye movement people). Well, what happens if a liar recalls (from memory) a lie he formerly constructed? Would he look to the "constructing" direction or the "recall" direction? Look at the comments on the site. One says Bush was constructing a WMD lie when he gave his speech - according to his eye movements. That would mean he went out there on the fly and made stuff up as he spoke. If he were going to lie, then he (or anybody else in that position) would more likely agree on the lie with advisers and then go tell the then formerly constructed lie from a real memory of the rehearsed or agreed upon lie. IP: Logged |
Barry C
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posted 07-16-2008 12:25 PM
I should add that if we stay honest, then we have more support for CVSA than we do eye movements. If we accept the eye movement theory, then we should welcome CVSA.IP: Logged |
ebvan
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posted 07-16-2008 02:15 PM
for a different approach, try a good book on selling for an outline base. Most of the principles are the same. The main difference is we sell Grey Bars and one way medications instead of used cars------------------
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Taylor
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posted 07-16-2008 07:20 PM
I evaluate everything in clusters.....including eye movement.IP: Logged |
Barry C
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posted 07-16-2008 07:53 PM
Then how do you know which of the cues in the clusters correlate with deception? It's much like scoring a baseline decrease in the pneumos. You might get the right results in the end, but you've scored noise along with good criteria (e.g., EDA amplitude increase, etc.). The noise will only serve to reduce accuracy, and it tells you nothing about deception."Clusters" are good though. Most people cheat and only look for one thing. Too many only look at eyes (noise) and as a result, they might as well flip coins. IP: Logged |
Tom Wheeler
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posted 07-17-2008 06:34 AM
Steve Duncan, Georgia State Patrol poly examiner, has a very good power point presentation about this. He will supply it for law enforcement training only. Give him a call.IP: Logged |
AD
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posted 07-17-2008 07:40 AM
Thanks all...Tom...do you have a contact number for him?IP: Logged |
Tom Wheeler
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posted 07-18-2008 06:46 AM
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